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Brush up on your Solar Gods and Heroes for they shall inspire you.

Comments from others about their mini reading.

An excellent article about Leo talents and family karma
is Oracles and the Family Karmic Inheritance
by Elizabeth Springer.

The House of Christian Dior was founded under Saturn in Leo.

YOUR SECOND SATURN RETURN IN LEO

Visit the charts of countries founded when Saturn was in Leo and let's learn from their example ... scroll down

The chart commonly given for Palestine now is the 1994 chart with Saturn in Pisces. I include Palestine here due to its being tied to the fate of Israel after World War II but have not posted the '94 chart.

Some of the turmoil recently occurring in the Middle East may be seen as a creative struggle to give birth to the self determination of these native peoples, a Leo issue. These nations, two in particular, were actually designed by Winston Churchill and T. E. Lawrence over dinner, or so Lawrence (of Arabia) would have us believe in his wry commentaries. At any rate, the British carved up the spoils of the Middle East in arbitrary fashion. These nations, experiencing their second Saturn Returns, are trying to give themselves second birth.

Some of you may be doing the same. You may be reacting to the way your parents designed your life or the way you think God designed your life by discovering there may be a better way for you. In this case, your task during the Saturn Return (first or second) is to give birth to yourself through what very well may be a mighty struggle.

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IS THIS YOUR SECOND SATURN RETURN TOO?
If you were born in 1947 or 1948, your second Saturn Return in Leo is coming up ... just like the countries of India, Pakistan and Israel.

A country or entity can have a birth chart just like a person! Countries, entities and people carry around the energy of their birth moment for the rest of their lives, developing it out in the macro you might say. Your life is that moment writ large.

Let's take a moment to look at the birth of these three nations. It will help you understand yourself better when you realize that you are walking around with this same energy. How are you using it? Let's see what happened to India, Pakistan and Israel. They are having their second Saturn Return right now, too.

 

PAKISTAN and INDIA
Pakistan, a Muslim country, and India, a Hindu country, emerged on the world map August 15, 1947. Rioting broke out immediately between Hindus and Muslims. Thousands were killed as the British, who handed over government, were unable to control the crowds. Massive shifts in population took place right away as 5.3 million Hindus fled from Punjab and Sindh into India, 5.9 million Muslims fled from India into West Pakistan, 3.3 million Hindus fled East Pakistan and 1.3 million Muslims fled from India into East Pakistan. In 1948, the first Indo-Pakistani War was fought over the territory of Kashmir. This was hardly an auspicious birth.

 

ISRAEL
On May 14, 1948 Israel proclaimed its independence and was attacked in less than 24 hours by the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.

Quote from a Masada website: "Our Palestinian Cousins started the '48 war, and in so doing released the warlike appetites of a nation of survivors, a people with no place to run, who had repressed their rage for millennia, and had now earned full title to it!"

Disregarding the probable truth or untruth of this statement, and the debatable assertion that anyone is entitled to unleash rage on anyone else, from the viewpoint of the Israelis, repressed rage would be one characteristic of Saturn in Leo conjunct Pluto. Heroic in their own eyes, Chosen People fighting for their God and their own place in the sun, the Israelis have continued to develop their myth of being special and entitled. They have become one of the most violent countries in the world today.

 

THREE SPECIAL CHILDREN?
THREE TROUBLED CHILDREN?
INDIA, PAKISTAN and ISRAEL
India, Pakistan and Israel ... can you think of children who had to come out fighting harder? The history of these countries gives new meaning to the story of Cain and Abel. So like each other yet bitter enemies for religious and cultural reasons, the inhabitants of these countries had to fight for their very existence from the moment they were born.

For some of you with Saturn in Leo, this is a familiar theme :-) Your specialness or favored position with one parent may have caused the enmity of the rest of your family, though likely it was repressed like the rage of the Jews.

If you remember that you carry around with you the energy of the moment of your birth ... you spread it out over a lifetime, you might say ... perhaps there is something in your life that you relate to the special place these countries hold in the world since their emergence. Orphans, step-children, personae non gratae, handed from pillar to post, "problem" children with highly visible fates .... Is there anything in your childhood like this?

Never were countries founded with more hopes for a bright future and rarely have such hopes been more precariously maintained.

 

SATURN IN LEO CONJUNCT PLUTO: EXPLOSIVE and IMPLOSIVE
What makes the fate of these countries so intense is that each has Saturn in Leo conjunct Pluto, the planet of destruction, transformation and evolution. Pakistan and India have Saturn and Leo at 13 degrees Leo which marks the beginning of a New World Order, similar to the one begun in 1982 when both planets were in Libra. See Old Men are Bastards for a discussion of the most recent cycle.

The energy when Saturn and Pluto combine is both explosive and implosive. If you were born in 1947 or 1948, you may habitually have had one foot on the gas pedal and one on the brake. Like these countries you may have a powerful potential to create or destroy, like juggling life and death.

In learning to think intuitively, we practice "compare and contrast" which develops right brain thinking. Compare and contrast your energy, your life path, with that of India, Pakistan, Israel or Palestine. What kind of comparisons could you make?

You may find that in some ways your life has been difficult, even harsh, but that you are a particularly good "survivor".

One of the questions to ask during your second Saturn Return will be, "What in my life needs to be destroyed so I can create a better one for myself?"

This reminds me of the Sun God Apollo who wrestled a python right after he was born.

Apollo, the Sun-God and Python
by J. M. W. Turner (1811)

To find out more general information about your particular aspects of Saturn in Leo CLICK HERE. To find out what famous person has the same degree a you, CLICK HERE.

 

being special can make you hated by the rest of your family
the "fall from grace" - often with Saturn in Leo there is an early brush with fame or specialness that is then "eclipsed" until it is hard won back again later in life

Example: Cilla was the "baby", born to a happily married 41 year old mother who already had a set of grown children. Cilla's mother had had to work up until now and finally was able to stay home all day with Cilla. Cilla's Saturn is in Leo in the 3rd house of siblings. Her older brothers and sisters were very jealous of her and hated and ostracized her when her mother died an early death. Cilla was just 15 and had nowhere to go. Cilla's father also vied for the mother's affections with she was alive.

Cilla was in a very "special" position but it cost her the enmity of the siblings and father. This is one of the typical scenarios for Saturn in Leo.

At her first Saturn Return, Cilla divorced and began a love affair that ended tragically.

Danielle Steele
Stephen King - when the dancer becomes the dance

Danielle Steele had a life that rivaled the most ambitious of her novels. According to Kirkus Reviews, "Heaven knows Steel's life is more than the stuff of romance. She was a neglected child. When she was hospitalized with ovarian cancer at 16, her parents never visited her. She married two convicts: Zugelder, a car thief and bank robber, who was also jailed for assault and rape (they were married in a prison ceremony and consummated their relationship in a bathroom); and Bill Toth, a heroin addict imprisoned for fencing stolen goods. Toth and Steel fought over custody of their son, Nicholas.

"Steel finally found her putative Prince Charming in John Traina, who ... has never been a shipping magnate, though he does have a dynamite collection of cigarette cases and closets full of designer clothes. With their nine children, Steel and Traina bought the enormous Spreckels mansion in San Francisco. They also own a mini-compound in the Napa Valley, where they house a fleet of cars and a staff of thousands. Success, eccentricity, and a strong sense of privacy surround a hard working gritty survivor."

Steele's son with Traina, Nick, committed suicide.

So there is an issue of melodrama with Saturn in Leo. Where does real life begin and melodrama end? Certainly the soap opera is not the preferred reality paradigm. Most people learn to contain the energy in an impersonal way, as Steele did when she began putting bigger than life incidents into her novels and not into her personal life.

IRRESPONSIBLE ENGENDERING OF A CHILD, MELODRAMA AND THE "MYTH OF CHILDHOOD"

Leo rules children. All Leos love their kids a lot ... because they created them. But with Saturn in Leo it's different. Special responsibility should be taken with birth control and also in choice of partners because the karma of engendering a child without responsibility is big with this placement. Here are just two heartbreaking examples from real life. I have changed some of the details to ensure the privacy of the individuals involved.

Maritsa's Saturn is in Leo. Maritsa is a very lovely Afro-American woman who got off to a rocky start in life, getting date-raped in high school by a guy headed to jail for armed robbery. Forced to have the child of a man she detested, Maritsa proved a responsible but emotionally indifferent single parent. She did not remarry for another 15 years. Maritsa cared for her son's physical needs but had little understanding for the developmental tasks of childhood and deeply resented having to provide for and raise him by herself. She had him vacuuming and helping around the house at 5 years old. She was merciless when he got a low grade or failed to obey her instantly.

As the boy, Jerome, got older, he became more and more like his father, embarrassing Maritsa who was working very hard and trying to make it into the middle class. She was embarrassed by the way Jerome chose to dress and the kids he hung out with. She blamed and berated Jerome without spending any time educating him in values or encouraging his sense of positive self. It was as if he was "too much trouble to be bothered with", something she frequently said.He had no male role models because she remained too bitter about men to date.

Eventually Jerome got into trouble with gangs and drugs, taking her through a series of melodramatic episodes which she shared at her church group for extra attention and sympathy. She was considered "saint like" to "put up with" what she did. Members gathered around her in support when she asked them to join in prayer for "her son".

Maritsa frequently sent Jerome to live with his father who was in and out of jail all the time. Eventually Jerome got stoned and fell down a flight of stairs, receiving permanent brain damage.

You can see here three Saturn in Leo issues: irresponsible engendering of a child, the myth of the "happy childhood", and the use of melodrama as a substitute for genuine creativity and affirmation of life.

A SPECIAL IMPERATIVE TO CREATE CONSCIOUSLY (INCLUDING THE CREATION OF LIVING BEINGS)

David got drunk one night and had a one night stand with a woman he hooked up with in a bar. Unfortunately a child was created as a result. David's claims he never led the woman on but she assumed her pregnancy would lead to marriage. She was very bitter when this did not happen.

She made David's life miserable and ultimately refused to allow him to see the child at all. David acquiesced out of guilt. He is not much of a fighter. Then David met Stefanie, a tough activist. Stefanie began a relationship with David and convinced him to fight for the right to have visitations with his son. Thanks to her initiative and courage, David prevailed and his son, Eric, began to visit regularly. Through dealing with Eric, Stefanie and David discovered how unstable his mother was. An uncle who sold drugs from time to time who lived in the backyard and had a bad influence on Eric. Eric's mother harassed Stefanie at work. Eric was paranoid and called the police when Stefanie tried to get him to take a cab home from school one day. Both Stefanie and David now feel things would have been better left the way they were since Eric had adjusted to his life without his biological father. The chaos inherent in the family situation was not something either of them was prepared to deal with in realistic terms. It opened the door to some terrible energy in their home.

They have since decided to forego visits from Eric who began to cry for his mother whenever they had expectations of him. David takes his home to visit his family in the summer for a few weeks and other than that, it is a very heartbreaking situation.

No one wins when a child is engendered irresponsibly.

The couple eventually gave up visiting privileges with Eric and are considering what alternatives they have to make sense of the situation. It is a heartbreaking situation for David, who only meant to have a one night stand. Eric is now 14.

Stephen King like Danielle Steele has Saturn in Leo and is another example of using creativity to deal with potentially melodramatic energy. King's father deserted the family when he was three years old. Something of a child prodigy, King submitted his first story for publication when he was 13. His first novel, Carrie (1974), was a tale of a girl with telekinetic powers. King had thrown the first pages of the story in a garbage pail, but his wife rescued them and urged him to finish the work.

King is an example of a Saturn in Leo with the kind of early prodigy or success than can be hard to follow. In his case, this was not an issue however.

King recently had a "grisly weekend mishap" the likes of which could have stepped right out of the pages of one of his novels. So we ask the question ... when does the music end? King, like many with Saturn in Leo has a special way of tapping in to the subconscious mind. But what happens when the lines get blurred?

The following comment was found on a King website after his accident: It has not escaped the collective attention of King faithful that the author's grisly weekend mishap sounds eerily familiar. As in Christine, Cujo and Misery familiar. King was struck by an out-of-control vehicle (like in Christine?) driven by a motorist who apparently had been distracted by a dog (as in Cujo?) Moreover, the impact of the crash threw King off the road--making him, temporarily at least, a stranded, hobbled writer (like Paul Sheldon in Misery?

"Misery? Cujo?/Which book is he living out?/Blame it on the dog...," a haiku-minded Netizen ponders on an Internet newsgroup (alt.talk.bizarre).

This is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig problem for the Saturn in Leo crowd -- what's the line between fiction and reality? Yes, we are poor players that strut and fret our hour upon the stage, but who's the director? What's the difference between drama and melodrama? What if we create from a destructive place? Are we required to destroy one world and create another?

Not everyone with Saturn in Leo has a subconscious mind full of the kinds of images and energies that Stephen King does, but every one with Saturn in Leo does have to deal with the content of the subconscious mind in a creative way because otherwise it becomes destructive.

While making the film Lawence of Arabia (1963), Peter O'Toole played the title role and almost repeated Lawrence's fatal motorcycle accident when a towing bar from the camera car snapped and sent the trailer-mounted cycle straight toward a ditch. 

Always ask yourself, "What am I creating from?" An excellent book to learn more about controlling the powers of the subconscious mind is The Powers of Your Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy.

Those born in the late 1940s with Saturn in Leo need to be especially mindful about the powers of their subconscious mind.

Adolf Hitler - It is Adolf Hitler who made the statement, "Who says I am not born under the special protection of God?" I wanted to use this quotation anonymously up to this point so you could be shocked into the reality of contemplating this sense of specialness that goes along with being Saturn in Leo.

If used unconsciously, this specialness becomes license.

T. E. Lawrence, "Lawrence of Arabia", who had Saturn in Leo, was one of the most fascinating men in history. Lawrence was in the midst of his Saturn Return when he was sent to Arabia and wound up leading the Arabs in uprisings against the Turks who were allies of Britain's enemy, Germany.

Lawrence was plainly tortured by the role he was required to play, becoming an icon during the war but retiring to an eccentric life of obscurity afterwards. He died in his early 40s in a motorcycle accident.

And yet he became an icon in his country and throughout Arabia. he was used by the British to betray the Arabs in their struggle for independence against the Turks during World War I. Lawrence became acutely aware of the dangers and powers of creation and the reasonability of the creator at all times. Read his memoir of the war against the Turks, Seven Pillars of Wisdom. Learn how this fits into the Saturn/Pluto cycle HERE.

Special powers
Chiang Kai-Shek
Ho Chi Minh

Thomas Jefferson - Thomas Jefferson created children with the slave girl at a time when owning this creation would have been problematical. This is a Saturn in Leo issue ... owning one's creations. Jefferson's descendants made insistent claims until DNA tests have revealed the likelihood that he had racially mixed children.

The Story of Frankenstein - the original story of Frankenstein by Mary Bysse Shelley is just full of things for Saturn in Leo to contemplate!

In the story, Dr. Frankenstein creates a "creature", a monster who later hates him because he begins to realize he is ugly and unlovable. This fable can be directly analogous to our relationship with God, our Creator. Or even to us and our parents. It is also a story about the responsibility and the fate of the creator in any act of creation ... art, projects, building....

Sir James Barrie - Aptly, a movie called Neverland with Johnny Depp has just come out (fall 2004) exploring the relationship of Sir James Barrie, creator of Peter Pan and the orphaned children he cared for in real life.

The theme of Peter Pan is about a boy who refuses to grow up. Barrie himself had issues with growing up due to a macabre incident in his boyhood.

[From Great Ormond Street Children's Charity] "For the first six years of his life, James [Barrie] lived in the shadow of his mother’s love for his older brother David. Tragically, on the eve of his 14th birthday, David was gravely injured in a skating accident and died shortly afterwards. While his mother derived some consolation from the notion that David would remain a boy forever, Barrie drew inspiration. In his desperate attempt to be loved and to replace David in his mother’s life, Barrie virtually became David.

"Trying so hard to be his brother stunted his own development – coincidentally at the same age at which his brother had died. At 14– and only five foot high – he stopped growing and never grew any taller."

Not only does this story point out the vast powers of the subconscious mind which every one with Saturn in Leo must take very seriously (perhaps he was trying to win his mother's love), it also shows the thin line between real life and melodrama which those with Saturn in Leo know so well.

I think it is wonderful that this film comes out in time for Barrie's fourth Saturn Return.

Beethoven
Salman Rushdie
Jean Cocteau

Emperor Franz Josef of Austria and his son, Crown Prince Rudolph -
fin de siecle Austria, a romantic and beautiful world (Viennese Balls, etc.) that was destroyed forever by World War I - the fate of the Hapsburg Dynasty was sealed with two Saturn in Leo events (Hapsburg Dynasty was one of the oldest in European history) - this in turn set the stage for World War II
Annie Oakley - anything you can do I can do better, female supremacy

TE Lawrence - of Arabia
Lawrence of Arabia was a bigger than life figure, a true icon of his era. He shows so many of the characteristics of Saturn in Leo. His childhood was quite strange. His father tried to divorce his first wife but she would not grant it, so he lived "infamously" (this was the Victorian Age) with another woman who bore Lawrence. Lies and secrets shrouded his childhood so that he came to believe he was the illegitimate son of his father. The scars of this remained with him long after his parents eventually told him the truth.

His Saturn Return found Lawrence stationed in ... Arabia (where else?) beginning an incredible chapter in his short life. He memorialized events in his book, Seven Pillars of Wisdom. This classic is still read by those interested in Middle Eastern developments and is highly recommended for those with Saturn in Leo seeking to understand our world better.

Lawrence was specially chosen but it was more a curse than a blessing. He found himself in the position of betraying the promises of his British superiors to the very Arabs he was organizing in revolt against the Turkish Empire. This tactic was undertaken to divert resources from the Germans during World War I (the Turks were their allies).

Lawrence was also very special in that he was rather revolted by sexuality. He apparently remained a virgin until raped at around 30 by Turkish soldiers in the city of Baraa.

Charlie Chaplin - Hollywood!
Rita Hayworth - Love Goddess
Liberace - "I laughed all the way to the bank" - outrageous taste and talent
Nelson Mandela - embodiment of struggle for South African independence
Camilla Parker-Bowles - the Other Woman
OJ Simpson - super hero and collective fantasies about black men and white women
Arnold Schwarzenegger - self made man
Alice Cooper - outrage and tastelessness
Elton John - outrageous outing and outrageous talent

Eleanor of Acquitaine - Eleanor of Acquitaine is the Poster Girl for Saturn in Leo. Her life was very special indeed. She was the wife of two kings, one French and one English and the mother of two English kings, John and Richard the Lion-Hearted whom she helped to revolt against her husband. Eleanor of Acquitaine was one of the richest heiresses of her era. She remained a powerful and viable force politically until her vast old age, for the Middle Ages. She died at 82 when the median life span in those times was probably about 50.

Eva (Evita) Peron
Betty Ford
Laura Bush
Hillary Rodham Clinton

Blaise Pascal
Carlos Santana

We have also already looked at the childhoods of T. E. Lawrence and others.

Arnold Toynbee
Katherine Mansfield

Leo Tolstoy
John Dewey
Laura Bush

Mickey Spillane + Mike Hammer
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle + Sherlock Holmes
In 1917 two young girls, Frances Griffiths and her cousin Elsie Wright, took a famous series photographs outside of their home in Cottingley, Yorkshire. The pictures showed themselves apparently surrounded by flying fairy creatures. The photos were seized upon and celebrated by members of Britain's spiritualist movement as evidence of the existence of fairies. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, author of the Sherlock Holmes mysteries, especially championed the authenticity of the pictures. It was not until 1983 that the two cousins confessed that the fairies in the pictures were simply paper cutouts held in place with hat pins. [from IndexHoaxorum]
One more I can't remember right now

Giacomo Puccini
TS Eliot
Andrew Lloyd Webber
Alexander Solzehnitsyn
Steven Spielberg