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Famous people with the same degree of Saturn in Leo ^^
Age 28-30, find the date of your first Saturn Return ^^
Age 28-30, find out what your group is like? ^^
Age 58-60, find out what your group is like ^^
Introduction to Your First Saturn Return ^^
What else to read? ^^


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alchemical image of the Sun riding a Lion dueling with the Moon on a mythical beast representing the yin and yang or polar energies of the the universe used in creation and procreation ... energies that can consume the Saturn in Leo personality

READ COMMENTS FROM FREE MINI-SATURN RETURN READINGS NANCY HAS DONE, THEN EMAIL FOR YOURS.

Are you between the ages of 28 and 30? Will you have your Saturn Return in 2004, 2005 or 2006? Check the list at the end of this article to see if it applies to you. I have had so much response from my article on Saturn Returns, I'm making this information available so you can check online while you read this article.

skip to dates for First Saturn Return (you're about 30 years old)

find out what your group is like - First Saturn Return (28-30 yrs.)

find out what your group is like - Second Saturn Return (58-60)

The ten articles in the Saturn in Leo series:

  1. Who Says I am not Born under the Special Protection of God? Saturn in Leo: Leos feel very special. They feel talented and chosen. This article presents a discussion of the basic issues for Saturn in Leo with examples from the lives of famous people you can learn from. How did Lawrence of Arabia handle Saturn in Leo? Charlie Chaplin? Hitler? How are you going to handle it? By the way, do you know whose quote that is, "Who says I am not born under the special protection of God?"

  2. You Think Some Great Power Failed You Saturn in Leo in the 10th House: Sample reading for a young man with Saturn in Leo in the 10th house who trained for years for the priesthood only to discover that he was an atheist. Or so he thought. My answer may surprise you.

  3. Brush up on Your Solar Gods and Heroes This article gives you some inspiration as it explores the symbols associated with the expression of Leo and the Sun in the astrology chart. These are the things to which Saturn in Leo most aspires.

  4. Your second Saturn Return in Leo Saturn in Leo. Born between 1946-48? Turning 60 soon? So are the countries India, Pakistan, Israel and Palestine. Does this tell you something? Pakistan has been in the news lately. It is becoming the darling of American foreign policy. Read more. Yours is the generation that came into the world on the defensive, fighting for your life, just like these countries.


  5. Saturn in Leo in History This article highlights events that occurred when Saturn was in Leo all the way back to 0 CE, many having to do with the Middle East. The countries of Pakistan, India, Palestine and Israel are now experiencing their second Saturn Returns.


  6. When It's Time to Create a Better God Creativity is a big issues with Saturn in Leo. Although this concept may sound strange, considered symbolically, this is one of the most pressing necessities for those with Saturn in Leo,to keep evolving their concept of deity until they get to something they can honestly worship! . Read about Carlos, the Mexican airline pilot, Alexandra the scientist and others who take this personal journey. These are true life stories with the names changed to protect privacy.

  7. Genesis -- Don't Leave Home without It Saturn in Leo. Find out what the story of creation can do for you in your personal journey!

  8. When Blessings Turn to Curses Saturn in Leo. This is a very special area of interest for those with Saturn in Leo ... what do you do when there's too much of a good thing? So many of the Saturn in Leo people I read for have so much talent it almost becomes a burden. Are you one of these?

  9. Frankenstein, a very special myth for those born with Saturn in Leo. Frankenstein is the creature, the created, who figures out he is ugly and turns on his Creator. Do you get it? Read a complete discussion for some core Saturn in Leo issues.

Also visit the charts of countries founded when Saturn was in Leo

India | Israel | Pakistan

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YOUR FIRST SATURN RETURN ... START HERE BY FINDING OUT WHAT YOUR BIRTH DATE REVEALS AS A GROUO

Find the date when you were born and then click through to find the dates in 2004 and 2005 for your Saturn Return and the famous people with the same degree of Leo/Saturn.

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Sep 18, 1975 thru Nov 15, 1975 - south node in Taurus, Saturn in Leo square Uranus in Scorpio

THIS GROUP IS ESPECIALLY WILLFUL, CAN BE VERY STUBBORN AND BE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Nov 15, 1975 thru Jun 15, 1976 - south node in Taurus

HIATUS Jan 16, 1976 thru Jun 6, 1976 Saturn back in to Cancer

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Jun 6, 1976 thru Jul 17, 1976 - south node in Taurus Saturn in Leo square Uranus in Scorpio

THIS GROUP IS ESPECIALLY WILLFUL, CAN BE VERY STUBBORN AND BE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Jul 18, 1976 thru Aug 3, 1976 - south node in Taurus

Aug 4, 1976 thru Aug 10, 1976 - south node in Taurus square Saturn in Leo

Aug 11, 1976 thru Sep 2, 1976 - south node in Taurus

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Sep 3, 1976 thru Sep 11, 1976 - south node in Taurus, Saturn in Leo trine Neptune in Sag and Uranus conjunct north node

THIS GROUP HAS WIND IN THEIR SAILS. THEY HAVE AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE, A WAKE UP CALL FOR THEIR FELLOW EARTH TRAVELERS. THEY ARE POWERFUL, URGENT AND DIVINELY INSPIRED. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Sep 12, 1976 thru Jan 6, 1977 - south node in Taurus

Jan 7, 1977 thru Feb 20, 1977 - south node in Aries

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Feb 21, 1977 thru Apr 22, 1977 - south node in Aries, Saturn in Leo square Uranus in Scorpio

THIS GROUP CAN BE ELECTIFYING WITH ALIVENESS AND IN-THE-MOMENT URGENCY BUT THEIR EFFORTS OFTEN FALL SHORT OF THE MARK BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPETUOUS. (SOMETIMES THE OPERATION IS A SUCCESS BUT THE PATIENT DIES.) I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Apr 23, 1977 thru May 15, 1977 - south node in Aries

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May 16, 1977 thru May 30, 1977 - south node in Aries, Saturn in Leo sextile Pluto in Libra

THIS GROUP COMBINES DIPLOMACY, POWER AND MOTIVATION. THEY ARE INNOVATIVE ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE PRINCIPLES OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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May 31, 1977 thru Jun 19, 1977 - south node in Aries

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Jun 20, 1977 thru Jun 30, 1977 - south node in Aries, Saturn in Leo trine Neptune in Sag

THIS GROUP IS BEAUTIFULLY SPIRITUAL, THEY ARE BRIGHT LIGHT BEINGS, HERE TO SPREAD THE WORD OF FAITH, HOPE AND INSPIRATION. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Jul 1, 1977 thru Oct 31, 1977 - south node in Aries

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Nov 1, 1977 thru Nov 17, 1977 - south node in Aries opposite Pluto in Libra

THIS GROUP CAN BE STUCK IN PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR THAT ESSENTIALLY DOES THEM IN -- AS WELL AS ANY GOOD THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE DO. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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HIATUS Nov 18, 1877 thru Jan 5, 1978 - Saturn goes into Virgo

Jan 6, 1978 thru Jul 6, 1978 - south node in Aries

Jul 7, 1978 thru Jul 27, 1978 - south node in Pisces

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Most of the time the outer planets have been around 15 degrees: Uranus at 15 Scorpio, Neptune at 15 degrees Sagittarius, Pluto at 15 Libra

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YOUR SECOND SATURN RETURN STARTS HERE ... FIND OUT WHAT YOUR BIRTHDATE REVEALS ABOUT YOU IN GENERAL

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Aug 3, 1946 thru Aug 2, 1947 - south node in Sagittarius

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Aug 3, 1947 thru Aug 17, 1947 - south node in Scorpio, Saturn in Leo conjunct Pluto in Leo, the beginning of a new World Order

THIS IS A POWERFUL GROUP, HERE TO INITIATE THE CONCEPT OF TRANFORMATION IN HUMAN POTENTIAL AND TO CONSCIOUSLY FURTHER EVOLUTION ON THE PLANET. I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Aug 18, 1947 thru Dec 16, 1947 - south node in Sagittarius

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Dec 17, 1947 thru Jan 14, 1948 - south node in Scorpio square Saturn in Leo

THIS GROUP HAS TREMENDOUS RESISTANCE TO DOING WHAT IT CAME HERE TO DO. (CUTS OFF NOSE TO SPITE FACE.) I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Jan 15, 1948 thru Jun 5, 1948 - south node in Scorpio

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Jan 6, 1948 thru Jun 23, 1948 - south node in Scorpio square Saturn in Leo

THIS GROUP HAS TREMENDOUS RESISTANCE TO DOING WHAT IT CAME HERE TO DO. (CUTS OFF NOSE TO SPITE FACE.) I recommend a full astrological consultation to explore in depth means of handling this energy appropriately.

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Jun 24, 1948 thru Sep 19, 1948 - south node in Scorpio

HIATUS Sep 20, 1948 thru Apr 4, 1949 - Saturn into Virgo

Apr 5, 1949 thru May 30, 1949 - south node in Libra

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Sun fighting the Moon from Aztec mythology
Leo is ruled by the Sun, considered a planet in astrological symbolism


The Tarot card for Leo from the Nigel Jackson deck

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THE DATES OF YOUR FIRST SATURN RETURN

THE DATES OF YOUR FIRST SATURN RETURN WILL BE ...

If you were born ...

Sep 18 - 28, 1975 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 17 - 24, 2005

Sep 29 - Oct 13, 1975 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 25 - Aug 1, 2005

Oct 14 - Dec 17, 1975 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 2 - 8, 2005

Dec 18, 1975 - Jan 1, 1976 ...your Saturn Return is Jul 25 - Aug 1, 2005

Jan 2 - 14, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 17 - 24, 2005

Jan 15 - Jun 5, 1976
Saturn was back in Cancer

Jun 6 - 14, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 17 - 24, 2005

Jun 15 - 23, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 25 - Aug 1, 2005

Jun 24 - Jul 1, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 2 - 8, 2005

Jul 2 - 9, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 9 - 16, 2005

Jul 10 - 17, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 17 - 24, 2005 and Mar 11, 2006 - May 1, 2006

Jul 18 - 25, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 25 - Sep 2, 2005 and Feb 21, 2006 - Mar 10, 2006

Jul 26 - Aug 2, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 3 - 11, 2005 and Feb 8,2006 - Feb 20, 2006 and May 19, 2006 - May 31, 2006

Aug 3 - 9, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 12 - 21, 2005 and Jan 27, 2006 - Feb 7, 2006 and Jun 1, 2006 - Jun 1-, 2006

Aug 10 - 17, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 22 - Oct 27, 2005 and Jan 14 - 26, 2005 and Jun 11, 2006 - Jun 20, 2006

Aug 18 - 25, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 3 - 15, 2005 and Dec 31, 2005 - Jan 13, 2006 and Jun 21, 2006 - Jun 29, 2006

Aug 26 - Sep 3, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 16 - Nov 4, 2005 and Dec 11 - 30, 2005 and Jun 30. 2006 - Jul 8, 2006

Sep 4 - 11, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 5 - Dec 10, 2005 and Jul 9, 2006 - Jul 16, 2006

Sep 12 - 21, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 17, 2006 - Jul 24, 2006

Sep 22 - Oct 1, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 24, 2006 - Jul 31, 2006

Oct 2 - 17, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 1, 2006 - Aug 8, 2006

Oct 18 - 27, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 9, 2006 - Aug 16, 2006

Oct 28 - Dec 28, 1976 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 17, 2006 - Aug 24, 2006

Dec 29, 1976 - Jan 13, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 9, 2006 - Aug 16, 2006

Jan 14 - 26, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 1, 2006 - Aug 8, 2006

Jan 27 - Feb 7, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 24, 2006 - Jul 31, 2006

Feb 8 - 20, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 17, 2006 - Jul 24, 2006

Feb 21 - Mar 7, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 16 - Nov 4, 2005 and Dec 11 - 30, 2005 and Jun 30. 2006 - Jul 8, 2006

Mar 8 - April 3, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 16 - Nov 4, 2005 and Dec 11 - 30, 2005 and Jun 30. 2006 - Jul 8, 2006

Apr 4 - 18, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 3 - 15, 2005 and Dec 31, 2005 - Jan 13, 2006 and Jun 21, 2006 - Jun 29, 2006

Apr 19 - May 15, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 16 - Nov 4, 2005 and Dec 11 - 30, 2005 and Jun 30. 2006 - Jul 8, 2006

May 16 - 30, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 5 - Dec 10, 2005 and Jul 9, 2006 - Jul 16, 2006

May 31 - Jun 10, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 17, 2006 - Jul 24, 2006

Jun 11 - 20, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Jul 24, 2006 - Jul 31, 2006

Jun 21 - 30, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 1, 2006 - Aug 8, 2006

Jul 1 - 8, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 17, 2006 - Aug 24, 2006

Jul 9 - 17, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 17, 2006 - Aug 24, 2006

Jul 18 -25, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 25, 2006 - Sep 1, 2006

Jul 26 - Aug 2, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 2, 2006 - Sep 9, 2006 and Mar 19, 2007 - May 20, 2007

Aug 3 - 10, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 10, 2006 - 18, 2006 and Mar 4, 2007 - Mar 19, 2007 and May 21, 2007 - Jun 5, 2007

Aug 11 - 17, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 19, 2006 - Sep 27, 2006 and Feb 19, 2007 - Mar 3, 2007 and Jun 6, 2007 - Jun 17, 2007

Aug 18 - 25, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Sep 28, 2006 - Oct 7, 2006 and Feb 7, 2007 - Feb 18, 2007 and Jun 18, 2007 - Jun 27, 2007

Aug 26 - Sep 2, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 8, 2006 - Oct 18, 2006 and Jan 25, 2007 - Feb 6, 2007 and Jun 28, 2007 - Jul 7, 2007

Sep 3 - 10, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 18, 2006 - Nov 1, 2006 and Jan 9, 2007 - Jan 24, 2007 and Jul 8, 2007 - Jul 16, 2007

Sep 11 - 19, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 2, 2006 - Nov 27, 2006 and Dec 15, 2006 - Jan 8, 2007 and Jul 17, 2007 - Jul 24, 2007

Sep 20 - 27, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 28, 2006 - Dec 14, 2006 and Jul 25, 2007 - Aug 1, 2007

Sep 28 - Oct 7, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 2, 2007 - Aug 9, 2007

Oct 8 - 18, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 10, 2007 - Aug 17, 2007

Oct 19 - 30, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 18, 2007 - Aug 25, 2007

Oct 31 - Nov 17, 1977 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 26, 2007 - Sep 2, 2007

Nov 17, 1977 - Jan 5, 1978
Saturn went into Virgo

Jan 6 - 22, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 26, 2007 - Sep 2, 2007

Jan 23 - Feb 5, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 18, 2007 - Aug 25, 2007

Feb 6 - 17, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 10, 2007 - Aug 17, 2007

Feb 18 - Mar 2, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 2, 2007 - Aug 9, 2007

Mar 3 - 16, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 28, 2006 - Dec 14, 2006 and July 25, 2007 - Aug 1, 2007

Mar 17 - Apr 5, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 2, 2006 - Nov 27, 2006 and Dec 15, 2006 - Jan 8, 2007 and Jul 17, 2007 - Jul 24, 2007

Apr 6 - May 15, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Oct 18, 2006 - Nov 1, 2006 and Jan 9, 2007 - Jan 24, 2007 and Jul 8, 2007 - Jul 16, 2007

May 16 - Jun 4, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 2, 2006 - Nov 27, 2006 and Dec 15, 2006 - Jan 8, 2007 and Jul 17, 2007 - Jul 24, 2007

Jun 5 - 17, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Nov 28, 2006 - Dec 14, 2006 and Jul 25, 2007 - Aug 1, 2007

Jun 18 - 28, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 2, 2007 - Aug 9, 2007

Jun 29 - Jul 8, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 10, 2007 - Aug 17, 2007

Jul 9 - 17, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 18, 2007 - Aug 25, 2007

Jul 18 - 26, 1978 ... your Saturn Return is Aug 26, 2007 - Sep 2, 2007

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Wondering about your Saturn Return?
PLEASE READ MORE ...

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GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FIRST SATURN RETIRN

ABOUT THE FIRST SATURN RETURN

The Saturn Return occurs between the ages of 28 and 30. It marks the official end of childhood and "past lives" - the two are similar psychically and even psychologically. Perhaps you could say that when we come into this lifetime, we re-create the conditions of our past lives, be they "good" or "bad" which carry us through to the age of 30. After that, we're on our own! Officially into the new lifetime, through a "difficult birth" at the Saturn Return, now we create from our own life force. The Universe asks us to discover (actually "remember" would be a better word) what it was we came here to do and get on with it.

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If you're in the habit of listening to people older than you, you may have noticed what dramatic changes people make in their lives at around 30. I can't think of anything more valuable for young people in their 30s and 40s than to read biographies of famous people as well. Here you will learn that no life is without difficulty and that many overcome hardship to succeed. Biographies are some of the most inspiring things you can read.

On a personal note, at times when I have most needed inspiration, I found greater inspiration in reading biographies than even in meditation ... it is as though the biographies are the answer to my prayer as I choose the ones that seem to be so pertinent to the issue I am struggling with.

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Here are some examples of significant things people did at their Saturn Returns -- taken from the lives of many different people in different times and places so you can see how universal this principle is:

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  • A 29 YEAR OLD WOMAN who had married an abusive man when she was just 17 finally found the courage to leave him. She took her three kids to another state to live with a nice older man.


  • ANOTHER MAN ended his career as a successful rock concert promoter (in the 70s), married, had a kid and began to sell real estate for a living - unfortunately he hadn't saved any of the money he made during the wild days!


  • ECKART TOLLE, author of The Power of Now had a conversion experience at 30 and began his life as a spiritual teacher.

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  • Veterinarian has painful childhood including undiagnosed spina bifida and undiagnosed ruptured appendix. Both conditions are corrected and at thirty, he enters a period of twenty years without health problems and says he never felt good before he was thirty.

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  • GWYNETH PALTROW's father died just as she was starting work on the film about Sylvia Plath's life and suicide. After, she decided to take at least a year off, saying, 'I worked so much in my 20s, and I really burned the candle at both ends and I wasn't too picky about what I did,'she said. 'I think the combination of losing my father, turning 30, taking a year off has completely shifted everything.'" She has recently become a mother.

 

  • When SIMON COWELL was 30 the company that owned his went bust, and he effectively lost everything. He had to move in with his parents. In hindsight, he says, it was the best thing that happened in his life because he learned the value of money, i.e., not to borrow money and not to live beyond his means. He says he learned that getting there is more fun than being there.


  • Just turning 30, WINSTON CHURCHILL followed his father's footsteps, crossing the floor of Parliament to the liberals (over Tariff Reform), an event which would have lasting repercussions in his life.


  • FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE did the unheard of at 30 for a woman of her era. She left for the Crimean War, beginning one of the most influential lives of the early 20th century.

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  • At his Saturn Return, NAPOLEON wrote, regarding his relationship with Josephine, "The veil is torn…. It is sad when one and the same heart is torn by such conflicting feelings for one person…. I need to be alone. I am tired of grandeur; all my feelings have dried up. I no longer care about my glory. At twenty-nine I have exhausted everything."
  • [footnote about love, 16 years later ...]: Josephine caught a cold in mid-May 1814, and despite a doctor's care she grew steadily worse. She died on May 29, in the arms of her son Eugene. Napoleon learned of her death via a French journal while in exile on Elba, and stayed locked in his room for two days, refusing to see anyone. Throughout her life Josephine had surrounded herself with the sight and scent of violets. Two days after his return from exile on Elba Napoleon visited Malmaison and collected violets from Josephine's garden. He would wear them in a locket until his death, a reminder of their tumultuous love. [website by Philip Bloom]


  • At 28 NICOLE KIDMAN began to make it into the big time on her own in films, moving out of the shadow of her husband, Tom Cruise. Perhaps this was the beginning of the end of the marriage a few years later.


  • STANLEY KUBRICK, turning 30, made his first major studio film, the powerful antiwar movie Paths of Glory starring Kirk Douglas.


  • At 30 MARILYN MONROE filmed "Bus Stop", met Lee Strasberg and Arthur Miller; and married Miller within the year.


  • JOHN FORBES NASH, JR. (A Beautiful Mind) married, had a child and experienced the onset of his mental illness at about 30.


  • At 31, PRINCESS DIANA got her formal separation from Charles. The damaging book "Diana: Her True Story" by Andrew Morton came out the year before, revealing that the princess suffered bouts of depression and bulimia, even attempting suicide.


  • Between the ages of 27-32 OSAMA BIN LADEN began spending more time in Afghanistan than Saudi Arabia. He would spend a total of eight months a year or more in Afghanistan. [Afghanistan is where he found the personal and material resources for Al Quaeda].


  • The UNITED NATIONS has been going through its second Saturn Return this past year and next .. what a beating! Will it reassert itself and grow or ...morph into something else?

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  • FREDERICK ENGELS was 28 and Karl Marx 30 when they published The Communist Manifesto.

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  • At 30 ROBERT MC NAMARA came down with polio and a week later so did his wife, who almost didn't recover -- his case was slight.

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Now you have a better idea of the scope of this transit and the kinds of changes real people make in their lives at about 30 years old. If you're having difficult time, I recommend a full astrology reading. Your astrology chart reveals the patterns you chose to live out in this lifetime. When you focus on them, everything in your chart is geared to support this. When you forget who you are and why you're here, when you focus on something else, nothing works well. Perhaps you've been noticing this lately.

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For some it will mean leaving behind a lifestyle they're accustomed to but which they have begun to realize they're outgrowing. Others will realize they are a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and that they will never be successful until they strike off on their own to find out who they are. Some may leave behind what seems to others to be a perfectly successful job, marriage or other arrangement. But deep inside they know they are living a lie and this is the time to find out and do something about it.

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If you make a move for greater authenticity at 28-30 the whole universe supports you. Usually people find it's the most stressful time in their life. Never before or again will it be so stressful as it is for some of you right now. But believe it or not, it's also easier to make a major life move now than it will ever be again, for another 30 years.

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I personally have helped several people make their transitions, and I can tell you that the one thing you don't want to be saying on your death bed is that you never lived. Any mistakes you may make in life cannot be worse than the feeling that you didn't give it your best try. And I'm not talking about a spotlessly clean kitchen floor either.

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The most precious gift you can give yourself and the gift you give back to God in gratitude for the gift of life, is to find yourself and do everything you can to become yourself, your authentic self. This is a good time to review the hierarchy of needs based roughly on the Maslow Pyramid. The idea is that you can't move to higher levels, unless you have met needs at lower levels. Anyone who has the time and resources to read this article is likely going to make it to the top; however, many are called and few are chosen.

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SATURN GOES INTO LEO


the King of the Jungle and the Golden Child, two images deeply associated with Leo

for an exploration of Solar Gods and Heroes (Leo inspired) click here ^^^


This section of the article refers to people who are experiencing their Saturn Return who have Saturn in Leo. It lists famous and infamous people who were born with Saturn at the same degree as you. These people are your "clan" from other times and eras, other generations. You can learn from their lives, how they used their Saturn in Leo energy and the gifts or lessons they left behind, which is the heritage of this placement.

There is a final article which discusses this in greater depth if your interest is piqued. Suffice it to say, you have a very special connection with all the people on this list but especially those where Saturn is the same degree of Leo as yours.

See if you can identify some similarities in the issues these people have dealt with, either well or poorly. Look for the date of your birth and then see who was born with Saturn in the same degree. Remember that you will have your first Saturn Return at around 30 and then another one at around 60 years old. Notice what these people did at their Returns (if they are old or or if they lived long enough.

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FAMOUS PEOPLE WITH THE SAME DEGREE SATURN IN LEO

If you were born September 18 - 28, 1975, January 2 - 14, 1976 or June 6 -14, 1976, your Saturn is at 0 Leo.

xxx 0 degrees - born

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If you were born September 29 - October 13, 1975, December 18, 1975 - January 1, 1976 or June 15 - 23, 1976, your Saturn is at 1 Leo.

Kate Winslet 1 degree - born October 5, 1975. Winslet will be experiencing her first Saturn Return along with you and other fans beginning July 25, 2005. Winslet came from a family in acting for many generations.

Winslet's first big break came in 1994 when she played the part of an obsessive adolescent in Heavenly Creatures. The movie wasn't that big a success but she received critical praise for her acting.

In 1995 Winslet met Emma Thompson who was instrumental in getting her the part of Marianne Dashwood in Sense and Sensibility. For this film she received a British Academy Award and an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actress. She also starred as Ophelia in Kenneth Brannagh's Hamlet.

Look for news of Winslet as she approaches her Saturn Return. Please email me if you find anything pertinent to the Saturn Return profile.

See Winslet's chart here ^^^

VERY GOOD SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
Life is short, and it is here to be lived.

Plastic surgery and breast implants are fine for people who want that, if it makes them feel better about who they are. But, it makes these people, actors especially, fantasy figures for a fantasy world. Acting is about being real, being honest.

Since I was 13 or 14 I've always felt older than I actually am. [Nancy's Note: Those with Saturn in Leo characteristically prefer the company of older people.]

The whole concept of 'grounding' children is utterly stupid - they just go off and rebel and don't like you. When my kids eventually come along, I don't want them to not like me.

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If you were born October 14 - December 17, 1975 or June 24 - July 1, 1976, your Saturn is at 2 Leo

Elton John 2 degrees - born March 25, 1947. In 1972 Elton John began a four-year streak of 16 Top 20 hits in a row with Rocket Man. During his first Saturn Return, he revealed in a Rolling Stone interview that he was bi-sexual, which was half true. This and exhaustion caused a drop in his record sales.

See John's chart here ^^^

Blaise Pascal 2 degrees - born June 16, 1623. A contemporary of Rene Descartes, Pascal published a significant work on geometry when just 16 years old.

At about the time of his first Saturn Return, Pascal's father died. This precipitated a religious conversion after which he devoted himself to religion instead of science, going from church to church in Pairs attending one religious service after another. His ideas about his father's death led to his later philosophical work, Pensees.

See Pascal's chart here ^^^

VERY GOOD SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
Had Cleopatra's nose been shorter, the whole face of the world would have been different.

It is the heart which perceives God and not the reason. That is what faith is: God perceived by the heart, not by the reason.

Love has reasons which reason cannot understand.

Men despise religion. They hate it and are afraid it may be true.

People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others.

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If you were born July 2 - 9, 1976, your Saturn is at 3 Leo.

Liz Greene 3 degrees - born September 4, 1946. Greene is one of the world's foremost astrologers. Learn more .... At her first Saturn Return, she wrote the preeminent book about Saturn, called, Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil. Any book by Greene is worth its weight in gold.

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If you were born July 10 - 17, 1976, your Saturn is at 4 Leo.

Le Corbusier - born October 6, 1887. Architect Le Corbusier was famous for his startling white houses and terrifying urban plans. Most of his work was not completed but he had tremendous influence on others in the field. He headed what was called the "Modern Movement".

He moved to Paris from Switzerland during his first Saturn Return and took for a pseudonym the name of his maternal grandfather, "Le Corbusier".

See Le Cobusier's chart here ^^^

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If you were born July 18 - 25, 1976, your Saturn is at 5 Leo.

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If you were born July 29 - August 2, 1976, your Saturn is at 6 Leo.

Laura Bush 6 degrees - born November 4, 1946. Laura Bush, like so many with Saturn in Leo, taught school and worked with children prior to marrying George at her first Saturn Return. During his term as president, she has become known as an advocate for education and literacy. She and George have fraternal twin daughters.
Laura Bush opening Texas Literacy Center

Chiang Kai-Shek 6 degrees - born October 31, 1887.

See Chiang Kai Shek's chart here ^^^

Pope LEO X 6 degrees - born December 11-20, 1475.

Georgia O'Keefe 6 degrees - born November 15, 1887. O'Keefe moved to New York about the time of her first Saturn Return and her paintings were introduced to Alfred Steiglitz who became her second husband. She divorced and married Steiglitz during the first Saturn Return.

At her Second SR Steiglitz died. O'Keefe moved permanently to Santa Fe, New Mexico. She lost her eyesight later in life but lived to be 98.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
I hate flowers - I paint them because they're cheaper than models and they don't move.

Singing has always seemed to me the most perfect means of expression. It is so spontaneous. And after singing, I think the violin. Since I cannot sing, I paint.

To create one's own world in any of the arts takes courage.

Salman Rushdie 6 degrees - born June 19, 1947. Famous/infamous for The Satanic Verses, published in 1988 which lead to accusations of blasphemy against Islam and demonstrations by Islamist groups in India and Pakistan. A fatwa was issued against Rushdie in February 14, 1989, which amounts to a death sentence. He went into hiding under protection by the British government.

His first novel, Grimius, was published during his first Saturn Return.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTE:
A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.

Most of what matters in your life takes place in your absence.

Our lives teach us who we are.

Gianni Versace 6 degrees - born December 2, 1946. Italian fashion designer who opened his first boutique at his first Saturn Return. Versace was brutally murdered outside his Miami Beach home by Andrew Cunanan in 1997. Thus he didn't live to his Second SR.

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If you were born August 3 - 9, 1976, your Saturn is at 7 Leo.

Eleanor of Acquitaine 7 degrees - born September 24, 1122. Eleanor of Acquitaine was one of the most powerful women in history, the wife of two kings, the mother of two kings. Eleanor was the richest heiress in France when she married the much older King Louis VII of France. The marriage was hateful. At the time of her first Saturn Return she was able to divorce Louis and married Duke Henry Plantagenet of Normandy, making him master of most of France and shortly thereafter helped him become King of England. She was 12 years his senior and bore him five sons and three daughters.

In 1173 Henry's sons revolted against him. Some historians say Eleanor was behind the insurrection. At any rate, she backed her sons and as a result was imprisoned by Henry until his death in 1189. She spent her Second SR in prison. In 1189 her favorite son Richard Coeur de Lion (the Lion-Hearted) took the throne and released her from prison. She ruled in his stead while he was on Crusade. Not the least remarkable thing about her was that she managed to live to be 82 in the Middle Ages (median life span probably about 50). Legend has it ... "while she undoubtedly underwent much deprivation during her imprisonment, she did not, when she obtained power, use it to punish her enemies, but rather devoted herself to deeds of mercy and piety, going from city to city, setting free all persons confined for violating the game laws, which in the latter part of Henry’s life, were cruelly enforced. " [http://ut.essortment.com/eleanoraquitain_rehd.htm]
for an interesting treatment of this fascinating bit of British history, rent the 2003 remake miniseries Lion in Winter starring Glenn Close as Eleanor of Acquitaine and Patrick Stewart as King Henry II. However, they are no match for the 1968 classic with Katherine Hepburn and Peter O'Toole.

Betty Ford 7 degrees - born April 8, 1918. Ford is known both as a former First Lady and as the founder of the Betty Ford Clinic for substance abuse recovery in Rancho Mirage, California. She married Gerald Ford during her first Saturn Return. During her Second SR, she was in rehab, recovering from painkillers and alcohol.

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If you were born August 10 - 17, 1976, your Saturn is at 8 Leo.

Orenthal J. Simpson 8 degrees - born July 9, 1947. Simpson's football career was over by the time of his first Saturn Return but his notoriety was just beginning. He was tried in 1996 for the murder of his wife at one of the most sensational trials of the 20th century.

At his Second SR we predict "suicide by cop". Simpson has Saturn in the 12th house and his subconscious may trip him up once again.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO:
The day you take complete responsibility for yourself, the day you stop making any excuses, that's the day you start to the top.

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If you were born August 18 - 25, 1976 or April 4 - 18, 1977, your Saturn is at 9 Leo.

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel 9 degrees - born August 27, 1770. Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel was one of the most influential western philosophers of the 19th century. He wrote about ethics, religion and politics. His philosophical system (very metaphysical) influenced Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. His system posited that reality is the result of a historical process (dialectic) whose ultimate end is an understanding of the essence of existence. Marx and Engels chose to interpret it politically and economically instead of metaphysically, They also failed to perceive the logical extension of this reasoning, that any system could not survive for ever. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis ... then thesis, etc.
Bowing down to the master.

During his first Saturn Return, Hegel inherited enough money to free up time to write.

Camilla Parker Bowles 9 degrees - born July 17, 1947. Parker-Bowles is the longtime companion of Britain's Prince Charles. They met in the early 70s. Parker-Bowles married someone else in 1973 and had children two years before and two years after her Saturn Return in 1977. It was during her Saturn Return that Charles met Diana. Parker Bowles divorced in 1995 and Prince Charles divorced in 1996. She will have her Second SR next summer. And she's gotten married!

According to HELLO!, "the down-to-earth, outdoorsy woman came under the public spotlight after Charles confirmed he had committed adultery with Camilla while still married to Diana. While controversy raged around her, Camilla chose to remain silent.

"After Diana's tragic death in August 1997, Camilla retreated from the public eye. It appears to have been Charles' son Prince William who extended the olive branch to his father's companion by inviting her to tea. At the request of the young Prince and his brother Harry, Mrs. Parker Bowles also accompanied Charles and his sons on a Mediterranean cruise in August 1999.

"Recently the couple have begun to undertake public engagements together, and are often snapped in each other's company on social occasions. Whether or not they eventually marry remains to be seen, but in order to do so, the British constitution would have to be changed to allow a divorcee to marry the Defender of the Faith."
Not so, it seems.

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If you were born August 26 - September 3, 1976, March 8 - April 3, 1977 or April 19 - May 15, 1977, your Saturn is at 10 Leo.

Carlos Santana 10 degrees - born July 20, 1947. Carlos Santana, born in Mexico, started the band Santana in San Francisco in 1969, combining electrified blues guitar with Afro-Cuban rhythms. He has sold millions of albums and performed before millions of fans.

During his first Saturn Return, Santana, disillusioned after the drug-related deaths of fellow musicians such as Jimmy Hendrix and Janis Joplin, turned to the spiritual teachings of Sri Chinmoy.

In 1998 Santana was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was evidently sexually abused by "an American man" when he was 10 to 12 years old. This trauma haunted him all his life. He is no longer with Sri Chinmoy.

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If you were born September 4 - 11, 1976, February 21 - March 3, 1977 or May 16 - 30, 1977, your Saturn is at 11 Leo.

T. E. Lawrence 11 degrees - born August 16, 1888. Lawrence, a Welshman, was an eccentric, rebellious, desert-loving, messianic, Oxford-bred British Army officer, who aided the Arabian Bedouins in their revolt against the Turks (allies of Germany) during World War I. His extraordinary knowledge of the politics and culture of the Mideast permitted him to succeed.

At his first Saturn Return, Lawrence was sent to Mecca on a fact-finding mission. His book Seven Pillars of Wisdom: A Triumph, originally published as Revolt in the Desert remains a classic for all Arabists.
"Lawrence of Arabia" is one of the most colorful and fascinating figures in history. Learn more >>> .

Discover the inner Lawrence ^^^

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTE:
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.

Giacomo Puccini 11 degrees - born December 22, 1858. Puccini is the composer of the world's best known operas, La Boheme, Tosca and Madama Butterfly. At his first Saturn Return, he still had no successful work behind him but began his lifelong association with the music publishing house of Ricordi. At this time, he also began a lifelong love affair with Elvira Gemignani, a married woman. He married her upon the death of her husband many years later.

At his Second SR he was working on the opera Turandot and died before its completion. It was completed by a colleague. The very popular Aria Nessun Dorma comes from Turandot. LISTEN.
Puccini's father died when he was only five.

Compositions of Puccini's have recently appeared as movie scores in Moonstruck, A Room with a View, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Witches of Eastwick and Fatal Attraction.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTE:
Inspiration is an awakening, a quickening of all man's faculties, and it is manifested in all high artistic achievements.

Arnold Schwarzenegger 11 degrees - born July 30, 1947. Schwarzenegger was five times Mr. Universe. At his first Saturn Return, he appeared in a documentary called Pumping Iron which made him famous. He also met Maria Shriver at that time. He married her shortly thereafter and they have four children.

In 2003 Schwarzenegger won the California State Recall, replacing Governor Gray Davis. His Second SR is approaching.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
I didn't leave bodybuilding until I felt that I had gone as far as I could go. It will be the same with my film career. When I feel the time is right, I will then consider public service. I feel that the highest honor comes from serving people and your country.

The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent.

The resistance that you fight physically in the gym and the resistance that you fight in life can only build a strong character.

There is no place, no country, more compassionate more generous more accepting and more welcoming than the United States of America .

I knew I was a winner back in the late sixties. I knew I was destined for great things. People will say that kind of thinking is totally immodest. I agree. Modesty is not a word that applies to me in any way - I hope it never will.

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If you were born September 12 - 21, 1976, February 8 - 20, 1977 or May 31 - June 10, 1977, your Saturn is at 12 Leo.

xxx 12 degrees - born

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If you were born September 22 - October 1, 1976, January 27 - February 7, 1977 or June 11 - 20, 1977, your Saturn is at 13 Leo.

Charlie Chaplin 13 degrees - born April 16, 1889. Charlie Chaplin was a superstar of silent comedies and one of the great icons of 20th century film. During his first Saturn Return he created United Artists with Douglas Fairbanks, Jr., Mary Pickford and D. W. Griffith. During his Second SR he was married to Oona O'Neill and making babies.
Charlie Chaplin as "the little tramp". According to Hollywood Renegades Archive, "Chaplin is perhaps the most biographied figure in Hollywood history. Praise for his comic genius, however, obscures his cunning as film producer—the role which enabled him to sustain his versatile talents and cement the cultural endurance of his on-screen Tramp persona. Chaplin's influence as comedic force and cultural icon have overshadowed one of his most triumphant roles as independent filmmaker....
As counterpoint to the whimsy of the Little Tramp, Chaplin served as his own financier and studio owner in charge of not only his filmmaking, but marketing and distribution. The unlikely combination of business skill and creative vision, in many ways, made Chaplin the forbearer of the creative Hollywood producer. Chaplin identifies both sides of his personality as a product of his childhood." [This combination, by the way, is highly LEO.]

"Chaplin's acting ability, far more expansive than the slapstick that made him a household name, was venerated by the illustrious John Barrymore in a well-known, albeit undocumented, Hollywood anecdote. When a movie director praised Barrymore as the world's greatest actor, Barrymore ... deflected the honor: 'There are only two great actors—Charles Chaplin and Orson Welles.'" [quote from Hollywood Renegades Archive.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
A tramp, a gentleman, a poet, a dreamer, a lonely fellow, always hopeful of romance and adventure.

I don't believe that the public knows what it wants; this is the conclusion that I have drawn from my career.

I had no idea of the character. But the moment I was dressed, the clothes and the make-up made me feel the person he was. I began to know him, and by the time I walked onto the stage he was fully born.

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Adolf Hitler 13 degrees - born April 20, 1889. Hitler was actually an Austrian, not a German. A decorated World War I veteran and frustrated artist (painter), Hitler was employed by the German government as a spy in 1919 -- his first Saturn Return -- when he investigated a small nationalistic group of idealists, the German Workers' Party. He wound up joining the party which morphed in to the NAZI party.

He committed suicide in 1945, a few years before his Second SR. The day before his death, he married his long term companion, Eva Braun. Braun and Hitler took cyanide and then Hitler shot himself.

Leo is all about childhood, so here are some photos from Hitler's childhood.
Hitler as a baby in Austria.

Hitler's mother Klara Peolzl.
[clips from www.clipart.com]

Take a look at Hitler's chart here ^^^

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction.

When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."

Who says I am not under the special protection of God?

Danielle Steel 13 degrees - born August 14, 1947. Nothing about Steel's life fits the Saturn Return pattern and she is certainly unique in that she is a best selling novelist who was also the mother of nine children. I'm including her because 13 degrees of Leo is the most intense time in the 1940's cycle.

Her son Nick Traina committed suicide at the age of 19 after battling substance abuse and mental illness. She wrote His Bright Light as a tribute to her son.

This is certainly a multi-faceted and multi-talented woman. Steel has also been the National Chairperson for The American Library Association and a spokesperson for the National Committee for the Prevention of Child Abuse and for the American Humane Association (AHA).

Quote from Kirkus Reviews of a book about her: "Heaven knows Steel's life is more than the stuff of romance. She was a neglected child. When she was hospitalized with ovarian cancer at 16, her parents never visited her. She married two convicts: Zugelder, a car thief and bank robber, who was also jailed for assault and rape (they were married in a prison ceremony and consummated their relationship in a bathroom); and Bill Toth, a heroin addict imprisoned for fencing stolen goods. Toth and Steel fought over custody of their son, Nicholas.

"Steel finally found her putative Prince Charming in John Traina, who ... has never been a shipping magnate, though he does have a dynamite collection of cigarette cases and closets full of designer clothes. With their nine children, Steel and Traina bought the enormous Spreckels mansion in San Francisco. They also own a mini- compound in the Napa Valley, where they house a fleet of cars and a staff of thousands. Success, eccentricity, and a strong sense of privacy surround a hard working gritty survivor."

Learn more at her official Random House website >>>

Arnold Toynbee - born April 14, 1889. Toynbee was educated at Oxford University in England. He served the British Foreign Office during World War I and World War II. At the time of his first Saturn Return, he was a delegate to the Paris Peace Conference. He was a professor of Greek language and history at the University of London and later director of studies at the Royal Institute of International Affairs for thirty years.

At his Second SR, Toynbee was publishing his great work A Study of History, which explored the rise and fall of civilizations. The main thesis of the work, according to www.encyclopedia.com, is that "the well-being of a civilization depends on its ability to respond successfully to challenges human and environmental. He got very close to making his third Saturn Return. He died at 86.

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
Apathy can be overcome by enthusiasm, and enthusiasm can only be aroused by two things: first, an ideal, with takes the imagination by storm, and second, a definite intelligible plan for carrying that ideal into practice.

As human beings, we are endowed with freedom of choice, and we cannot shuffle off our responsibility upon the shoulders of God or nature. We must shoulder it ourselves. It is our responsibility.

History is a vision of God's creation on the move.

Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.

It is a paradoxical but profoundly true and important principle of life that the most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at that goal itself but at some more ambitious goal beyond it.

The supreme accomplishment is to blur the line between work and play.

To be able to fill leisure intelligently is the last product of civilization.

We have been God-like in our planned breeding of our domesticated plants and animals, but we have been rabbit-like in our unplanned breeding of ourselves.

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If you were born October 2 - 12, 1976, January 14 - 26, 1977 or June 21 - 30, 1977 14, 1975, your Saturn is at 14 Leo

Indira Gandhi 14 degrees - born November 19, 1917. Indira Gandhi of India was one of the most famous women in 20th century politics. India achieved independence at the time of Indira Gandhi's first Saturn Return and her father, Jawajarlal Nehru became prime minister. Indira's mother had died nearly a decade earlier and the 30-year old acted as her father's hostess and confidante, traveling everywhere with him, meeting important political figures.

Indira became prime minister herself in 1966 and was ousted during her Second SR in 1977. In 1980 she made a comeback and was assassinated in 1984.

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Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela 14 degrees - born July 18, 1918, Mandela was the former president of the African National Congress and of South Africa. He was elected secretary of the Youth League at his first Saturn Return.

He was inaugurated as the first democratically elected State President of South Africa on 10 May 1994 and served until June 1999 when he retired from public life. Mandela received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1993.

According to the ANC Organization website, Nelson Mandela's "greatest pleasure, his most private moment, is watching the sun set with the music of Handel or Tchaikovsky playing, pleasures he was died during years in prison. The years in jail reinforced habits that were already entrenched: the disciplined eating regime of an athlete began in the 1940s, as did the early morning exercise. Still today Nelson Mandela is up by 4.30am, irrespective of how late he has worked the previous evening. By 5am he has begun his exercise routine that lasts at least an hour. Breakfast is by 6.30, when the days newspapers are read. The day's work has begun.

"With a standard working day of at least 12 hours, time management is critical and Nelson Mandela is extremely impatient with unpunctuality, regarding it as insulting to those you are dealing with" . Learn more >>>

"The struggle is my life." Mandela sacrificed his private life and his youth for his people, and remains South Africa's best known and loved hero.

Click here to see Mandela's chart ^^^ .

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart.

Let freedom reign. The sun never set on so glorious a human achievement.

Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.

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If you were born October 13 - 27, 1976, December 29, 1976 - January 13, 1977 or July 1 - 8, 1977,your Saturn is at 15 Leo.

Ludwig von Beethoven 15 degrees - born December 16, 1770. Beethoven is probably the best known composer of classical music in the western world. He is remembered for his powerful and stormy compositions.

He is also known for his famous letters to the "Immortal Beloved" which were found after his death. To learn more, CLICK HERE.

Beethoven began to go deaf at his first Saturn Return. He died shortly before his Second SR of pleurisy.
Sculpture of Beethoven, showing his heroic struggle against his fate. His Eroica symphony is a good rendition of this power. It is also said that as he lay dying, there was a thunder and lightning storm. He shook his fist at the heavens. [clip is from www.clipart.com, sculptor not known]

See Beethoven's chart here ^^^

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
Beethoven can write music, thank God, but he can do nothing else on earth.

Music should strike fire from the heart of man, and bring tears from the eyes of woman.

What you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am by myself. There are and will be a thousand princes; there is only one Beethoven.

Orlando Bloom 15 degrees - born January 13, 1977. We've seen quite a bit of this lad between Lord of the Rings and Troy. Bloom is a classically trained actor who played Legolas for Tolkein and Paris in Troy.

The roles of Paris and Helen of Troy are played by two individuals with Saturn in Leo. (Helen of Troy is played by Diane Kruger, Saturn in degrees of Leo.)

The Iliad, the 3,000 year old Homeric legend of the Trojan War, is a story about romantic love contrasted to family duty and obligation and love of country. The self-centered adolescent passion of Paris and Helen brings death to thousands of Greeks and Trojans, death to Paris' beloved brother Hector, a truly gigantic hero, devastation and death to their noble elderly father, tragic King Priam. This love also brings destruction to the city of Troy, which is razed after a ten-year siege.

Is all this "well lost" for love? This is a good question for those with Saturn in Leo to contemplate and so it is ironically fitting that the parts of Helen and Paris are played by two who will be contemplating these issues for the rest of their lives.
Kruger and Bloom on the Troy set, preparing to play two famous lovers from history/legend, Helen of Troy and Prince Paris.

Liv Tyler 15 degrees - born July 1, 1977. Tyler, a remarkable beauty, made her acting debut in 1994's Silent Fall. Like Bloom (above) she starred as an elf in Lord of the Rings. We will await news of her during her first Saturn Return.

According to superiorpics.com (source of photo as well), "Liv Tyler was born Liv Rundgren on July 1st, 1977 in Portland, Maine. Liv grew up believing that rock musician Todd Rundgren, her mother's long-term boyfriend, was her father. After all, that is what her birth certificate read. However, Liv was actually the product of an eight-month relationship with Aerosmith front-man Steven Tyler. Her mother is Bebe Buell, former Ford model, Playboy Playmate, singer, and apparent rock groupie.

"Liv became suspicious of her true paternity when she met Steven Tyler's other daughter Mia, who was like a rubber stamp of herself. Liv confronted her mother and was told the truth about her biological father. On her twelfth birthday, Liv adopted the name Tyler as her own".
[below] Liv "Rundgren" with her mother Bebe Buell for a photo shoot.


photos from fan site, presumed to be in public domain

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If you were born October 28 - December 28, 1976 or July 9 - 17, 1977, your Saturn is at 16 Leo.

T. S. Eliot 16 degrees - born September 26, 1888. T. S. Eliot's poem The Wasteland is the most famous English poem of the 20th century. It expresses modern man's unease with conditions. During his first Saturn Return, Eliot produced The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, his first collection of poetry.

It is interesting that Eliot and Lloyd Webber, two men with Saturn in Leo at 16 degrees teamed up to produce Cats. [see next item]

GREAT SATURN IN LEO QUOTES:
Anxiety is the hand maiden of creativity.

Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm. But the harm does not interest them.

I am an Anglo-Catholic in religion, a classicist in literature and a royalist in politics.

It's strange that words are so inadequate. Yet, like the asthmatic struggling for breath, so the lover must struggle for words.

Poetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But, of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things.

The communication of the dead is tongued with fire beyond the language of the living.

The last thing one discovers in composing a work is what to put first.

We know too much, and are convinced of too little. Our literature is a substitute for religion, and so is our religion.

You are the music while the music lasts.

Andrew Lloyd Webber 16 degrees - born March 22, 1948. Lloyd Webber composed Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat, Jesus Christ Superstar and Evita with lyricist Tim Rice. He started to write music as a very young boy. He saw Evita premier in London during his first Saturn Return.

Three years later the premier of Cats made Lloyd Webber rich and famous! Cats is the longest running and highest grossing musical on Broadway. Phantom of the Opera was created in 1986.

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If you were born July 18 - 25, 1977, your Saturn is at 17 Leo.

Marc Edmund Jones 17 degrees - born October 1m 1888. A famous early astrologer, Jones astrological career spanned almost 70 years. He was also an ordained Presbyterian minister, a qualified psychologist and a recognized authority on occult lore.

Jones made a long term Christian commitment at age 16.

At the time of his Second SR, Jones obtained a PhD from Columbia University in philosophy. This reminds us of Rob Hand (!)

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If you were born July 26 - August 2, 1977, your Saturn is at 18 Leo.

Jean Cocteau 18 degrees - born July 5, 1889. Cocteau's father committed suicide when he was ten years old. The controversial French filmmaker met Picasso at the time of his first Saturn Return and together they went to Rome where they met up with Diaghilev who had formed Ballet Russes several years earlier . Cocteau prepared the ballet Parade which was a disaster, though successful a few years later.

He also began an affair with a 15 year old novelist, Raymond Radiguet whose death five years later started Cocteau on opium.

He returned to work in the early 40s largely due to his friend Marais and at his Second SR produced the phenomenon Orphe